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		<title>Comment on Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial? by Cricket One Day Internationals ODI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Sledging an Art form?</title>
		<link>http://counterreport.com/national-issues-2/andrew-symonds-monkey-controversy-racial.html/comment-page-1#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Cricket One Day Internationals ODI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Sledging an Art form?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] coming from their own, this is surely more acceptable than being called a monkey by opposition), Andrew Symonds, Clarke and others who took advantage and claimed bounced catches besides other clear dismissals [...]&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
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		<title>Comment on Who is a Racist? by Cricket One Day Internationals ODI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial?</title>
		<link>http://counterreport.com/international-issues/who-is-a-racist.html/comment-page-1#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Cricket One Day Internationals ODI &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would need a dictionary of racist words since a lot of words are confusing. Is Gay a racist word? What is racist? Is bastard (uttered by Brad Hogg for the Captain Anil Kumble) racist? Well, one thing is certain. [...]&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] would need a dictionary of racist words since a lot of words are confusing. Is Gay a racist word? What is racist? Is bastard (uttered by Brad Hogg for the Captain Anil Kumble) racist? Well, one thing is certain. [...]
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial? by Who is a Racist? &#124; counterreport.com</title>
		<link>http://counterreport.com/national-issues-2/andrew-symonds-monkey-controversy-racial.html/comment-page-1#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Who is a Racist? &#124; counterreport.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] remark allegation should be proved only in the court setup by ICC, not you or me. You can check out this article for statement of facts, just [...]&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial? by NK</title>
		<link>http://counterreport.com/national-issues-2/andrew-symonds-monkey-controversy-racial.html/comment-page-1#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>NK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I understand Peter's anger, I quiet agree with Vineet on this issue. We are talking about racism in cricket first, and then do we take on a holistic view of this issue in the context of the history of the world. We are cricket lovers on this blog, so lets stay with cricket for now.

The case is open and shut, there is no proof against Bhajji. If he were to be proven guilty, plenty of us would be the first to admit that he was wrong and should be punished.But then thats not the case. Also, the ICC needs to draw a clear line as to what is deemed racist. Its needless to say that 10 different test playing nations speak 10 different languages and have 10 different ways of interpreting the common abuses that are used across the globe. 

Now take Hogg for example, the fellow is not going to contest the charge made against him by the Indian cricket teams manager on behalf of Kumble and Dhoni, instead he is going to defend himself by saying that its a common "slang" to call a fellow cricketer a Bastard.However surprising and wierd that may sound!!!!! Because he is talking as if they both ( Hogg and Kumble) are best of pals. 

But then he is trying to get a reprieve from the punishment by trying to touch base with the cultural difference of the country he lives in and the cultural difference of the country of his victim. (Although I think he is just trying to bull shit his way out of the mess he got himself into.)

The point remains, on a broader context, that its not clear what is deemed racist. I just feel that the things have been blown out of proportion by the Aussie's (right from the Ind v Aus series in India in 2007) because the Indians have had the guts to give the Aussie's a taste of their own medicine. 

The poor fellows cant digest that and add to that, the fact that India has probably been the most competitive team they have played against in the recent past ( they have lost 4 of the 9 ODI + 20/20 matches since the 20/20 World Cup S/F against India with 1 being washed out). The Aussies have scene defeat a heck of a lot of times against India recently and they just want to get even. Vengence, by hook or by crook, was their sole motto. Cricket was just their medium, and I believe so was Andrew Symonds ethinicity.&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I understand Peter&#8217;s anger, I quiet agree with Vineet on this issue. We are talking about racism in cricket first, and then do we take on a holistic view of this issue in the context of the history of the world. We are cricket lovers on this blog, so lets stay with cricket for now.</p>
<p>The case is open and shut, there is no proof against Bhajji. If he were to be proven guilty, plenty of us would be the first to admit that he was wrong and should be punished.But then thats not the case. Also, the ICC needs to draw a clear line as to what is deemed racist. Its needless to say that 10 different test playing nations speak 10 different languages and have 10 different ways of interpreting the common abuses that are used across the globe. </p>
<p>Now take Hogg for example, the fellow is not going to contest the charge made against him by the Indian cricket teams manager on behalf of Kumble and Dhoni, instead he is going to defend himself by saying that its a common &#8220;slang&#8221; to call a fellow cricketer a Bastard.However surprising and wierd that may sound!!!!! Because he is talking as if they both ( Hogg and Kumble) are best of pals. </p>
<p>But then he is trying to get a reprieve from the punishment by trying to touch base with the cultural difference of the country he lives in and the cultural difference of the country of his victim. (Although I think he is just trying to bull shit his way out of the mess he got himself into.)</p>
<p>The point remains, on a broader context, that its not clear what is deemed racist. I just feel that the things have been blown out of proportion by the Aussie&#8217;s (right from the Ind v Aus series in India in 2007) because the Indians have had the guts to give the Aussie&#8217;s a taste of their own medicine. </p>
<p>The poor fellows cant digest that and add to that, the fact that India has probably been the most competitive team they have played against in the recent past ( they have lost 4 of the 9 ODI + 20/20 matches since the 20/20 World Cup S/F against India with 1 being washed out). The Aussies have scene defeat a heck of a lot of times against India recently and they just want to get even. Vengence, by hook or by crook, was their sole motto. Cricket was just their medium, and I believe so was Andrew Symonds ethinicity.
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial? by Vineet</title>
		<link>http://counterreport.com/national-issues-2/andrew-symonds-monkey-controversy-racial.html/comment-page-1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Vineet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, the language you used "Shame on you" shows why your comments can't be considered seriously - you seem to be overtaken not by judgment but by rage. This Blog didn't make any conclusions and i didn't make any opinions without facts. I just stated what was there. Neither did i call Australians racists, I just said that the level of charges made, need evidence. We are not talking of 2 people's personal talks, it has to be something where evidence has to be either TV footage, stump mic or the umpires, not the accusers some of whom were also seen giving false evidence regarding a catch in the same match, or pressurizing the umpires into giving false decisions. Well a more serious charge is there against Brad Hogg, who called the opposing Test Captain and the ODI Captain Bastards, which in India is a more serious slur. I am not sure how Bastards rate in Australian vocabulary? Is it considered an honour?&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, the language you used &#8220;Shame on you&#8221; shows why your comments can&#8217;t be considered seriously - you seem to be overtaken not by judgment but by rage. This Blog didn&#8217;t make any conclusions and i didn&#8217;t make any opinions without facts. I just stated what was there. Neither did i call Australians racists, I just said that the level of charges made, need evidence. We are not talking of 2 people&#8217;s personal talks, it has to be something where evidence has to be either TV footage, stump mic or the umpires, not the accusers some of whom were also seen giving false evidence regarding a catch in the same match, or pressurizing the umpires into giving false decisions. Well a more serious charge is there against Brad Hogg, who called the opposing Test Captain and the ODI Captain Bastards, which in India is a more serious slur. I am not sure how Bastards rate in Australian vocabulary? Is it considered an honour?
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial? by NK</title>
		<link>http://counterreport.com/national-issues-2/andrew-symonds-monkey-controversy-racial.html/comment-page-1#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>NK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 09:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be a totally different perception about the case in discussion. While the whole world sits up and argues whether Bhajji did call Roy a monkey, I think a lot has been made into it by the Aussie media and not to forget, the Australian cricket team.

The whole world now knows that the Aussie's are a bunch of pathetic losers who cannot look competition in the eye. Its one thing to crush your competition on the field and totally another to resort to cheap means to bring their moral down. And surprisingly, the Australian cricket team has done enough to prove that they are the best at both forms of crushing. The latter form, needless to say, is not a very proud thing to do.

About Roy crying foul on being called a monkey, tell me, how on earth would our comparisons to our ancestors be deemed racist. I dont think being called a monkey is a problem, the problem is that Roy was annoyed that Bhajji gave him some of his own medicine. 

Aussie's , wake up, this will not be the last time that we Indians are giving it back to you. The next time you dare open your gob to mouth censored words at us, you will be treated with equal amount of disdain.

Show some gut, fight it out instead of running to the powers that be.&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be a totally different perception about the case in discussion. While the whole world sits up and argues whether Bhajji did call Roy a monkey, I think a lot has been made into it by the Aussie media and not to forget, the Australian cricket team.</p>
<p>The whole world now knows that the Aussie&#8217;s are a bunch of pathetic losers who cannot look competition in the eye. Its one thing to crush your competition on the field and totally another to resort to cheap means to bring their moral down. And surprisingly, the Australian cricket team has done enough to prove that they are the best at both forms of crushing. The latter form, needless to say, is not a very proud thing to do.</p>
<p>About Roy crying foul on being called a monkey, tell me, how on earth would our comparisons to our ancestors be deemed racist. I dont think being called a monkey is a problem, the problem is that Roy was annoyed that Bhajji gave him some of his own medicine. </p>
<p>Aussie&#8217;s , wake up, this will not be the last time that we Indians are giving it back to you. The next time you dare open your gob to mouth censored words at us, you will be treated with equal amount of disdain.</p>
<p>Show some gut, fight it out instead of running to the powers that be.
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		<title>Comment on Andrew Symonds Monkey Controversy - Racial? by Peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No evidence! 3 players heard him use the word!

Tendulkar didn't hear it. Neither did I. I don't see that that is relevant.

It's sad that so many people want to justify racism. It's sad that we live in a world where so many people think its OK to call a black man a monkey.

Shame on you.&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
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<p>Tendulkar didn&#8217;t hear it. Neither did I. I don&#8217;t see that that is relevant.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad that so many people want to justify racism. It&#8217;s sad that we live in a world where so many people think its OK to call a black man a monkey.</p>
<p>Shame on you.
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] analysis and debate. However, if you want to setup your company in my state, my goverment i&#8230;read more &#124; digg [...]&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
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